Quote:Original post by Bregma
I would argue you're not practicing low-level C++ programming, you're practicing low-level C programming.
If you wanted to be programming in C++, you would be using std::valarray for this stuff. If you really wanted to be doing low-level C++ programming, you would be specializing std::valarray.
--smw
Quote:Original post by linternet
and I would argue that since "new" isn't C that his code is distinctly C++.
Quote:Original post by ToohrVyk
He uses "new" instead of "malloc" and "delete" instead of "free". Hardly deserving of a distinctly epithet, if you ask me. In fact, what he wrote is C code which requires a C++ compiler to compile. Just like IOCCC entries are not representative of a sane C program.
Quote:Original post by linternetQuote:Original post by ToohrVyk
He uses "new" instead of "malloc" and "delete" instead of "free". Hardly deserving of a distinctly epithet, if you ask me. In fact, what he wrote is C code which requires a C++ compiler to compile. Just like IOCCC entries are not representative of a sane C program.
Point taken. I just don't understand why the community constantly denigrates perfectly legal, working code simply because it doesn't adhere to the academic dogma of a language.
Quote:Original post by ToohrVyk
Because it can create silly situations. Consider a 100KLOC project written in C, but C++-compilable, with a header file included almost everywhere. Add an #include <vector> at the top of that one header file. The one hundred thousand lines of C code have automagically turned into C++.
Because of this, most people use the name "C++" to refer to modern C++, to distinguish it from C-compiled-as-C++. The main idea behind this is that (modern) C++ code is more easily exception-safe, interacts better with the standard library, requires less non-default constructors and destructors, and generally requires less work than the C-like version. It is not so much academic dogma as it is using the language to its full extent, doing less work to write faster and more easily maintainable programs.
Quote:Original post by linternet
The only thing I'll mention is that when working with old code and people whose skills are out of date (me) the practical application of purley modern C++ becomes nearly impossible.
Quote:That mixing is why a language that is (to use your signature) "an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog" is so popular in the first place.
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Quite sadly, yes, that's true. Sadly, few people realize that they're abandoning the simplicity of C without gaining the advantages of C++. The two languages, contrary to populary belief, interact together extremely badly.
Quote:Original post by linternetQuote:
Quite sadly, yes, that's true. Sadly, few people realize that they're abandoning the simplicity of C without gaining the advantages of C++. The two languages, contrary to populary belief, interact together extremely badly.
You're basically saying that pre-standardized C++ is/was useless?
