Quote:Endless post
how do you think that developers should evoke emotion in games or in stories in general?

There are at least 2 books and one website/newsletter on the subject. Check out the writings of Lee Sheldon, Laurie Hutzler, and David Freeman.

What sorts of emotions and bonds with game characters do you want players to have?

I would say that the most important factor in inducing emotion in players is immersion. You can use a mix of standard writing and cinematic techniques to present content designed to make the player feel one thing or another, but it will only work if the player hasn't already decided the game is cheesy, stupid, internally inconsistent, or otherwise not to be taken seriously.

Quote:Original post by Endless Ambition
When I talk about connecting emotionally to a character I mean feeling enough for a charatcer to care what happens to them throughout the story.

Most of the rest of us except msn or whatever probably knew that (I've stifled my impulse to say "well, duh" because you ambitiously expressed it perfectly).

Quote:how do we get videogames to make people cry.

I already gave you author names to check out. Sheldon. Hutzler. Freeman.

Quote:Original post by Tom Sloper
Most of the rest of us except msn or whatever probably knew that (I've stifled my impulse to say "well, duh" because you ambitiously expressed it perfectly).

Yeah, I deserve that. I knew what the OP ment, unfortunetly the wording of my question wasn't as specific as it should have been. For that I apologize.

I was trying to fish this from the OP:

Quote:how do we get videogames to make people cry.

First realise that you can't MAKE the player feel anything. Anymore than you can make them play your game. Its all voluntary, you can only give them enough ports of intrest to spark thier willingness to get involved. Then continue to feed them enough inorder to build further intrest.

Second realise that crying ISN'T an emotion. Its a response to an emotional state, not the state itself. Further there are many specific emotional states that crying is a normal response to...Many of which have nothing to do with grief from the loss of life.


The film Field of Dreams came out about 20 years ago. It's a "tear jerker" especialy noteworthy for its effect on males. It does this by drawing upon a sons relationship with his long dead father, and his often unconscious longing to have established a stronger bond. The tears come from the wish fullfillment of this longing. This works largely because the father character is a mostly unseen archetype, allowing viewers to subtley imagine thier own father figure in his place.

Also note there are no scenes of characters expressing grief cradleing the lifeless body of a loved one...Death is handled in a more metaphorical way, and the film's emotional resonance is stronger because of it.


Most threads of this type are only really concerned with "the holy grail of crying". This usualy only relates to the death of a game character. Which reflects a lack of emotional insight, specificly that tears can come from other emotional states (the wish fullfillment in Field of Dreams for example). Or worse that we are so creativly bankrupt, that we can only address issues through the overuse of cliches.

On that point; evokeing tears from the death of a game character has been done before (ask the old timers about Floyd from Planetfall). But evokeing tears of joy, well that is a worthwhile crusade for developers honestly interested in exploreing a wider range of emotions.

Quote:Original post by Endless Ambition
Particularily in games, this is a challenge as cinematics are really only the time to impplement such emotion. How can developers implement gameplay techniques to bring emotion across, and I don't mean white-knuckle excitemet.

The phrase white-knukle excitement brings to mind action games like God of War or even Halo. Might not be what you ment, but as noted above, you didn't really feel anything for the plights of the Halo characters, despite developers trying to evoke some sort of emotional response from you. That might be a challenge developing such reactions from certain styles of games.

With action games we mostly exercise the analytical (left) sides of our brain. Its all about spatial placement, judgeing distances between objects, the mechanics of performing twitchy gameplay moves. And with such intense sections between the cinematic story development parts, the high of playing can overpower us. Our brains may mostly just find intrest in the plot developments of the cinematic, not the emotional drives/motivations...Also it may take some time to reignite the emotional side of the brain after all that analytical excitement.

Not to say it can't be done, just that there could be a number of factors working against evokeing wider emotional responces in such intense action games. Obviously action films are simularly effected, as thier emotional resonace can seem especialy lacking (there are a few exceptions).

But there definetely is the capability in slower story driven games. Adventure games in particular and to some degree RPGs as well. Puzzles in adventure games can often rely on nonlinear associations -a right brain strength, also home to emotional perception abilities. So in contrast to action games, adventure game players may be better tuned into following the emotional rollercoaster game characters go on. Certainly in the classic Lucasarts adventure games humor plays a role, which can make the characters rather endearing to a dominateing rightbrain while playing.

Course this is just a personnel theory thus far. But I think chooseing the correct(read: more in tune) style of gameplay that is more open to longterm rightbrain activity could be a good start.

I also don't mean to suggest that action gamers are unfeeling troglodytes. Just that there might be some interesting brain activity going on during action gameing sessions that might make evokeing wider emotional responces more challangeing.


edited for clearity.

[Edited by - MSW on July 4, 2008 5:36:31 AM]