Quote:Original post by mikeman
(...) The suicide scene,as Cobb remembers it, contributes to this interpretation, as she jumps from the window of the opposite building(...)

Actually, i think it was the same room, with two windows facing each other. The distance between them was too narrow to be a street.



On another note... was anyone else heavily dissapointed when Ariadne tells Cobb the secret entrance to the level? I mean, the whole movie they talk about how dangerous it was for Cobb to know.
They didn't even give a reason for her to tell her, it was like:

Cobb: "(X) needs it, what is the secret path?"
Ariadne: "I'm not suppose to tell you"
Cobb: "Tell me!"
Ariedame: "Ok... it's (...yaddhayadha...)"
Cobb: "Ok, now go and tell that to him!"

Huh?

In 2 minutes one can think a many better ways to let Cobb know the secret. This was very dumb slip for such a huge script.

Quote:Original post by desdemian

Quote:Original post by mikeman
(...) The suicide scene,as Cobb remembers it, contributes to this interpretation, as she jumps from the window of the opposite building(...)

Actually, i think it was the same room, with two windows facing each other. The distance between them was too narrow to be a street.



On another note... was anyone else heavily dissapointed when Ariadne tells Cobb the secret entrance to the level? I mean, the whole movie they talk about how dangerous it was for Cobb to know.
They didn't even give a reason for her to tell her, it was like:

Cobb: "(X) needs it, what is the secret path?"
Ariadne: "I'm not suppose to tell you"
Cobb: "Tell me!"
Ariedame: "Ok... it's (...yaddhayadha...)"
Cobb: "Ok, now go and tell that to him!"

Huh?

In 2 minutes one can think a many better ways to let Cobb know the secret. This was very dumb slip for such a huge script.

Yup, I smacked my forehead. It could have gone like:

"Is there a secret path to cut through the maze?"
"Yes, but I'm not supposed to tell you!"
"Good, don't tell me, but please tell him that!"

It sucks. Couldn't understand it. Too many firearms... seems like the Terminator snuck into the dream. :)

Quote:Original post by mikeman
But Mal believes they are still dreaming, and commits what it appears to Cobb as suicide, which it could be, but it also could be a real awakening this time.

I looks at that dilema the same way as the "prisoners and hats puzzle". If she had really awoken, then she would have re-entered the dream (which we were shown is possible), to tell him. Therefore she really died.

Well, the whole story was nice, but had its issues.


For example, they carried out the mission in time (so not in a week at first level just maybe 2-3 days, especially not for months/years on the lower levels), yet, Cobb wakes up 20 minutes before the landing of the plane. So, he spent decades again looking for Ken Watanabe (may be, since Ken was depicted old)?
The others woke up much earlier? How about the sedative? This wasn't very clear for me.

The whole mythology was very unrealistic, for example an amateur lucent dreamer can wake up from a dream at will (I can do it since I was 10-12), this whole kill=wake up thing was quite lame. The speeding up of the human brain was acceptable at the first level, but why the hell it took effect on the other levels? The physical/real brain had its limitations.
And I can almost always tell if I'm dreaming. I'm only not aware, if the dream is simple: total nothing (drifting in some goo), or just 3-4 sentences of conversion: about what to eat and stuff. OR when I dream that I'm drunken/dying/beaten. Since it's so similar: I feel that I'm dreaming, but I can't be sure if the cause is that I've just lost consciousness due to the shock.
If a dream gets complex enough, I realize that I'm dreaming. That's the point when I either start raping women, or start to struggle to stay asleep because the dream is exciting. And I just can't stay asleep, my limbs are torpid, can't stand moving them, which means waking up.

Yet, the world/mythology was okay by itself. And this is the most important thing.