Which is why I stated several times that the amount of change involved in moving to a new planet would be enough to last a lifetime.

But it is not as simple as that. I moved each time because I always knew there was a place better suited for me. I am not bored of Tokyo, and if no options closer to my biggest childhood dreams presented themselves I would stay here for life. The only reason I would ever consider leaving Tokyo is in pursuit of a bigger dream I have always had, which is to live on another world.

As I said, I know only one thing: How to pursue my dreams.

Now that my biggest dream ever has shown a chance to be fulfilled, all other arguments are basically moot.

You also forget to account for how many changes this actually is. This isn’t Tokyo direct to Mars.

This is Japan to The Netherlands, then to deserts, underwater training facilities, etc. for 10 years.

Then changing to a rocket for 7 months.

Then changing to a whole new planet.

This is where that argument entirely folds in on itself.

For someone who craves changes, what is the alternative? Just stay in Tokyo for the rest of my life? Doesn’t that sound like the exact opposite of pursuing change?

At some time you always reach a point where you just have to settle down. No more change.

I’d rather it be on a whole new planet after a whole lifetime of unbelievable journeys.

L. Spiro

Btw, a heads up, the Mars-One campaign on indiegogo, after 25 days and with 21 days to go, still has gathered only about 125,000$ out of 400,000$ which is the goal.

It is also stated there, that the campaign will receive all funds even if the goal isn't met(something possible on indiegogo), which, for a project of this nature, is just so unfathomably pathetic I can't even begin to find the words to describe it fully(but also explains why exactly they didn't use the much more popular Kickstarter). So congrats, maybe the "heads" behind this campaign will get a nice 200K or such, which isn't enough to buy a handful of screws from a spaceshuttle, but can surely be used to buy some nice cars.

I find it interesting, as a user there commented, that Star Citizen, Roberts' space-sim game, on the other hand, has so far gathered, through crowd-funding, 35 million (which, I guess, would be enough to buy a...used and retired fighter jet maybe?)

I guess most people believe that the latter is way more likely to happen.

Wow, people think there is even a remote chance that we are near the technology to send people to colonise mars? We struggled to land a robot with government funding, and now $400,000 of crowdfunding is going to get us there?

The biggest problem I see is the fact that Spiro is talking as though landing on mars and settling there is a sure thing. The simple truth is, attempting it with this organisation of crack-pots is suicide. This talk of settlement is nothing short of dellusional and I would recommend an 8 year trip to a psychologist instead.

L. Spiro talks as if landing on Mars is a sure thing because landing on Mars is a sure thing.

It’s only a matter of when.

But L. Spiro’s patience for people who don’t do their own research before criticizing things grows very thin.

The technology has existed for quite some time, and it is in fact because of the government that we aren’t already there.

You have homework to do.

L. Spiro

It’s only a matter of when.

And of whether L. Spiro will be around when it happens, I suppose.

I just want to say, Spiro, I'm sure you know this already, but you don't have to justify yourself to everyone in this thread. Some people are just not going to understand your rationale, no matter how hard you try, while others will, especially when it comes to such fundamental things as leaving the planet. Besides, I feel this thread has more or less devolved into a "mars one will not succeed" versus "yes we will land on mars one day" almost-strawman-argument that can not be resolved by anyone involved. But that might just be me.

10$ says they all get fried by radiation in the journey (assuming the thing gets to that point).