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ok, so the next question would be, is there a "better" alternative? i mean java is kind of restrictive, so what would the best alternative to C++ be?

Where are you getting the idea that Java is restrictive?

Quote:Original post by godsenddeath
ok, so the next question would be, is there a "better" alternative? i mean java is kind of restrictive, so what would the best alternative to C++ be?

I avoid the word "best" like the plague. There is no generalized "best", only a series of possible tradeoffs (the whole X Y or Z, pick 2 question). My usual recommendations are either C# or Python. It doesn't matter which, pick one and stick with it.

C# has:
- XNA, for a relatively quick start with game development
- Been proven to be quite viable for games: Arena Wars was coded entirely in it.
- Can interface with C or C++ code if you really need to

Python has:
- Pygame, for a relatively quick start with game development
- Been proven to be quite viable in games: Both EVE Online and Civilization 4 use it extensively.
- Can interface with C or c++ code if you really need to (see Boost.Python)

If I were to start creating a new game, I'd probably go with one of these :)

Python : PyGame
C# : XNA
Java : jMonkeyEngine

I think the reason I use C++ more than anything else is because there are WAY, WAY more resources on game programming using C++, especially when talking about advanced topics, than any other language. If I could find all the information that I know about C++ game programming in other languages, not to mention libraries for each of them, I'd have swapped to those languages ages ago. I'm a big fan of Java but I just can't imagine swapping away from C++ at this point or anytime in the near future. There's just a prevalence of C++ code in this industry.

I definitely think it's worth knowing C++ well if you are considering a job in game programming but knowing more languages, such as C#, Java and Python never hurt anybody.

A good language doesn't necessarily make a good program, a good programmer makes a good program. Imho a good programmer should be able to cope with whatever language they require to do their job.

P.S. You don't have to make a Tetris clone first if you don't want to. It's a bit over-used and unoriginal. If you're going to bother making a game, make something which is your own IP but keep it simple; it's more fun that way.

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Quote:Original post by godsenddeath
ok, so the next question would be, is there a "better" alternative? i mean java is kind of restrictive, so what would the best alternative to C++ be?

Where are you getting the idea that Java is restrictive?

Isn't Java required to be run in a java console? isn't it mostly used for online games and stuff of that sort?

I believe you are thinking of Java Applets as opposed to pure Java. Applets do have restrictions for security. Pure Java has no such restrictions.