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Ian Mallett · 2007-08-15T10:59:50

Quote:Original post by superpigI've posted some notes about the design of the system in my journal - all feedback is appreciated.Ah, I see.Quote:Original post by superpigYou'd be amazed how intelligent people can be utterly lacking in common sense. [grin] I'd give that argument some weight were it not for the fact that people already post things in the wrong forums even when the right forum is fairly clear. Besides, what makes language such a great classification for the taxonomy? Perhaps we should have '2D OpenGL' and '3D OpenGL', or 'Simple Rendering' and 'Complex Rendering', or 'API issues' and 'Graphics Theory' (oh, wait)... there are a whole bunch of different ways you could cut it. Ultimately it doesn't work because the classifications we want aren't hierarchical. 'C++' and 'Python' are not subcategories of 'OpenGL.'I still think people are smarter than that... but it's true that languages are not subclasses of OpenGL, though having 8 OpenGL forums for 8 languages makes no sense either.Quote:Original post by superpigI would agree that this is unusual; I think I may have seen it happen a couple of times, but that's in my reading of the forum over six years. [smile] I would suspect, as well, that it's less that people forgot which language you asked for, but more than they don't know the language well enough to write in it themselves yet still wanted to try and help you. Was there nothing helpful in the non-Python replies that you received?Now, I have seen that before -- people giving help in another language on purpose; everything anyone says is helpful, so nothing is a waste. I'm referring to a time when a topic got really large and people didn't read the first page. So some people forgot (I know because they admitted it after that other guy posted) or didn't realize that the topic should be closed anyway because my problem was solved. Quote:Original post by d000hgIf you post in the OpenGL forum and say "I'm using Python" and someone posts code in C++, why not reply with "I don't know C++, can anyone help me convert this to python"?Or, post a link to it in a Python forum "How would I convert this C++ to Python?""Hello everybody, yes, I have a question... but before I begin, I (don't laugh) don't know C++". Because every programmer worth anything in the real world knows C++. Everything is written in C++, though in my opinion languages like Python are much easier to read and write. I learned enough to write a simple game my first day. Quote:Original post by d000hgOr, learn enough C++ to understand what the code does.That's my solution, though I'm still not good enough to even write the most basic programs with it...

Geometrian

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July 27, 2007 05:10 PM

As the title suggests, I think there should be a dedicated PyOpenGL forum for people who only program python but want to use OpenGL. This would prevent double posting in the "Scripting Languages and Game Mods" forum and "OpenGL" forum.

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Sneftel

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July 27, 2007 05:13 PM

Here ya go!

Geometrian

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July 27, 2007 05:20 PM

I was thinking of something on GameDev.net, as there are a lot of excellent programmers here.

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Roboguy

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July 27, 2007 05:23 PM

Or you could just pick a forum and not crosspost. PyOpenGL is too specific to have an entire forum dedicated to it here.

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Simian Man

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July 27, 2007 05:23 PM

GameDev can't have a forum for every combination of programming language and library. There would be such an explosion of forums if one was dedicated to every niche.

If your problem has to do with OpenGL, you can paste your problem in the OpenGL forum and most other programmers will be able to read your Python code well enough to help you.

Geometrian

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July 27, 2007 05:26 PM

That's what I've been doing, but sometimes it's hard to find someone who knows enough python to help.

Quote:Original post by Simian Man
GameDev can't have a forum for every combination of programming language and library. There would be such an explosion of forums if one was dedicated to every niche.

I do see what you mean though.

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Kylotan

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August 08, 2007 06:08 AM

Also, hardly anybody uses OpenGL and Python, sadly. Such a forum would be very empty. I intend starting out with soon, though. I'll try and scan the OpenGL forum more often to look for these. Until then, make sure you have Python in the subject line when posting in the OpenGL forum, or OpenGL in the subject line when posting in the Scripting Languages forum.

Geometrian

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August 08, 2007 07:55 AM

You could make the OpenGL forum contain subclasses for various bindings to various languages. Recently, I've been putting the line "All code here will be Python" and such at the top of the post when showing code, and "Request replies in Python" for returning code. It seems to work well enough, though often people forget to do so, give me C++ code anyway, or just don't read my post entirely (or at all) and so just don't know.
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Kylotan

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August 09, 2007 07:15 AM

Given that our forums don't have "subclasses", that would be decidedly non-trivial. Generally wrong-language replies are better than no replies at all though.

Geometrian

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August 09, 2007 09:16 AM

Quote:Original post by Kylotan
Given that our forums don't have "subclasses", that would be decidedly non-trivial.

I'm sure it could be done. I've seen it done.

Quote:Original post by KylotanGenerally wrong-language replies are better than no replies at all though.

Of course.

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