I can't check that sales site since the net here blocks that site, but from what I read the first 3 months of 2008 had PS3 outselling the 360 (I don't know how the year continued). I don't think the Playstation 3 is failing badly at all. Not to be a Sony fanboy, but how many more cases of red-ring broken Xboxes have you heard of that weren't covered under warranty? It may be a small percentage but I'll be some part of MS sales was rebuys which more than covers the price of a single PS3.

With that said, I am somewhat of a Sony fanboy. I prefer the console and my only other thought was to buy a 360 for the titles you can only get on that system. Almost every night myself and my friend (who is a devoted 360 owner) debate between 'Why I think PS3 is better' and why 'He thinks the 360 is better'. It's going to come down to system preference initially and since none of the systems have really alienated their core gamers, they're all going to have devoted followers.

I'm one of the guys who see's the Wii as a fad so (not to sound harsh) but I really don't see it holding out as well as everyone makes it seem. Just about everyone I know has a Wii and none of them play them anymore (granted they range from age 12-25) but I don't see their parents sitting around playing them either. I've probably seen more people playing the DS than the Wii while in the presence of both systems. Last year one of the major new reveals for Nintendo was Wii Fit, and they played the hype game for that thing up until the day it was released. Now I don't know the sales figures, but almost everyone I've heard from said they bought it, played it a few times, and now it sits around. I think it's great Nintendo is targetting the 'casual' audience, but the casual audience isn't going to stick around and play Wii every day like a hardcore gamer will for a system dedicated to the hardcore gamers.

Quote:Why is (according to Microsoft and many other people) the Playstation 3 failing so badly.

Probably because Microsoft is a competitor and it's in their interests to convince people that the PS3 is a failure.

Quote:Original post by Nytegard
I honestly don't see the Wii as a casual console. It's a pretty hardcore console dressed in casual sheep clothing.

Okay...what does that mean exactly?

PS3 sales have been picking up this year, although I'm still fairly baffled as to why. 360 and PS3 are basically neck and neck in current sales rates. I don't see any particularly compelling reason for that to change any time soon, so it's pretty hard to sanely claim that the PS3 is failing...

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Not to be a Sony fanboy, but how many more cases of red-ring broken Xboxes have you heard of that weren't covered under warranty? It may be a small percentage but I'll be some part of MS sales was rebuys which more than covers the price of a single PS3.

OK, this pisses me off. Not you, but MS. I'm on my 4th XBox. I've only had 1 RRoD. 3 Disc drives died though. And I've already had to spend $200+ fixing them. Fortunately, the RRoD is covered under an extended warrenty, but if your system dies for any other reason (and mind you, the disc drive is a very big reason for returns), you have the standard one year warrenty. And I guess I'm unlucky, because it's always like 3 days after the warrenty expires that my disc drive fails. Regardless, neither the Wii nor PS3 have anywhere close to the failure rate of the 360. Although I'm not sure if MS considers my new replaced systems sales (although it wouldn't surprise me).

I thought you were going to uber-flame me and I was scared there for a second :p My friends launch console amazingly lasted this long but the disc drive can't read a lot of discs. I think all of the companies have had relatively 'un-healthy' responsiveness for broken consoles, 360 just seems to have a larger problem rate.

Don't worry, we're all unlucky. I bought my PS3 for the $600 or whatever it cost initially and had a 30 day return policy, 31 days later there was a price drop. Literally the final return day was a Sunday and Monday they announced the price drop (I think that was the week of E3 last year).

After I posted that I wasn't sure about counting repairs as sales, but I was wondering if they factor in returned/busted consoles in that number. It's a good question for any company that has returns, I bet all companies count a sale as a sale no matter if the console is brought back or not.

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This is similar though to the Wii selling. Many of those games that are bought on the Wii such as Wii Fit fall into the same category as the Wii itself. From my own personal experience, I know a lot of people who bought Wii Fit, yet none of them use it. I can't explain it, and maybe I just have the wrong set of friends and acquitances, but they buy the games yet never play them at all.

I see that too and I find it very strange.

It's like the Wii is a some kind of status thing. I see people buy them and then play with them for a day and never touch the thing. They just want to say that they own one. Like a lot of devices that are shiny, new, and in limited supply, everyone ran out to buy one.

The Wii in this house almost never gets touched. It seems like 300$ was spent to play River City Ransom for a few hours. [lol]

Mario Kart Wii was fun for a few days, but I have no urge to ever play it again.

The one thing I noticed is there's a lot of Wii owners who look at Nintendo and pretty much only Nintendo for games, then complain because there's no good games for the Wii.

The conversations with them usually go like, so what'd you think of No More Heroes, and they go no more what? How about Lostwinds? Lost what?

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Quote:Original post by Trapper Zoid
This is similar though to the Wii selling. Many of those games that are bought on the Wii such as Wii Fit fall into the same category as the Wii itself. From my own personal experience, I know a lot of people who bought Wii Fit, yet none of them use it. I can't explain it, and maybe I just have the wrong set of friends and acquitances, but they buy the games yet never play them at all.

I see that too and I find it very strange.

It's like the Wii is a some kind of status thing. I see people buy them and then play with them for a day and never touch the thing. They just want to say that they own one. Like a lot of devices that are shiny, new, and in limited supply, everyone ran out to buy one.

The Wii in this house almost never gets touched. It seems like 300$ was spent to play River City Ransom for a few hours. [lol]

Mario Kart Wii was fun for a few days, but I have no urge to ever play it again.

Recently I just bought a Wii from a friend who had an extra one. I'm looking forward to playing it, especially for Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest, Wii Play/Sports, etc. And I have a wife to play it with, so I'm sure Wii will last for a while, and actually be used! I guess it depends on each person's preferences.