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so what specifically should they be proud of? their indiscriminate rocket attacks? their urban guerellia tactics? seems to me it was the international community that drove out isreal, because the ground offensive, while with losses on both sides, was pretty sustainable in terms of kill ratio.

As I wrote previously, they should be proud that they survived the air attacks and they held off the ground assault. If you want me to go on, they should also be proud that their indiscriminant rocket attacks killed more soldiers than civilians - which is something that the Israelis can't say about their supposedly accurate bombs.

im sorry? how much soldiers did they kill with their rockets? only two or three that im aware of. if you would care to enlighten me...? not to mention that the relatively low number of casualities on the isreali side wasnt due to hezbollahs mercy, but rather thanks to isrealis knowing better than to remain inside buildings that are beng bombarded.

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As I wrote previously, they should be proud that they survived the air attacks and they held off the ground assault.

I see you have fallen for the propaganda too. Hizballah didn't hold off any invasion. The only thing that held off the invasion was pressure from the world. People like you. And for that, you should be proud of yourself, and not of Nasrallah. I'm afraid though, that there was a lack of forethought in all this pressure. Because the chances for a much bloodier encounter in the very near future have just increased ten-fold.

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Quote:If you want me to go on, they should also be proud that their indiscriminant rocket attacks killed more soldiers than civilians - which is something that the Israelis can't say about their supposedly accurate bombs.

Their rocket attacks killed very few soldiers(12 if I'm not mistaken). And that was by chance too. The guerilla warfare is what caused almost all the military losses, and it is also the main reason so many Lebanese civilians died.

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Israel has ignored the international community before, it it wanted to continue with it's ground offensive, it would have. You're obviously missing part of the picture.

It wanted to. But it didn't. So I'm afraid you're wrong there.

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In the poll, published in the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper on Friday, 91 percent of respondents - all civilians - said that the IDF should bomb villages from the air, while 8 percent said they should depend on ground forces. The poll was on the verge of swaying the war's execution when news of a cease-fire deal broke.

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did i miss it or has nobody noticed that the UN can't find troops for it's force?
no western country wants to give a reasonable number of soldiers (esp. france - they want the lead and give 200 soldiers [totally]). so far they only have about 3500 soldiers - they want 15.000. and most of them come from countries like bangladesh - countries that continuously give troops to UN operations, because they make money with it and their soldiers aren't worth anything.

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel objects to including countries that do not have diplomatic relations with the Jewish state in a planned United Nations force for southern Lebanon, the country's ambassador to the United Nations said on Friday.

Malaysia and Indonesia have each offered to send 1,000 troops to Lebanon. Both countries, with Muslim majority populations, have no diplomatic ties with Israel and strongly support the Palestinian cause.

"It would be very difficult if not inconceivable for Israel to accept troops from countries who do not recognize Israel, who have no diplomatic relations with Israel," Israel's U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman told the BBC.

Gillerman said Israel would be "very happy" to accept troops from Muslim countries it has friendly relations with.

"But to expect countries who don't even recognize Israel to guard Israel's safety I think would be a bit naive," he said.

Malaysia's Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar dismissed Gillerman's remarks, saying, "we're going to be on Lebanese territory ... we're not going to be on Israeli territory."
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - Israeli commandos raided a Hizbollah stronghold in the eastern Bekaa Valley on Saturday in what Lebanon called a "naked violation" of the U.N.-backed truce that ended Israel's 34-day war with Hizbollah guerrillas.
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BEIRUT, Lebanon -- Hezbollah fighters battled Israeli commandos who landed near the militants' stronghold deep inside Lebanon early Saturday, killing one soldier, in the first large-scale violation of the U.N.-brokered cease-fire between the sides.

Hezbollah said its guerrillas foiled the raid after a gunbattle, and the Israeli army said one soldier was killed and two were wounded, one seriously.

Witnesses said Israeli missiles destroyed a bridge during the raid - the first major violation of the U.N.-imposed cease-fire that took effect Monday following 34 days of fighting.
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